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Save the Cat!® Podcats: The All Is Lost Beat Test

maxresdefaultstcpodcats_605x480pxDid you know there’s a story beat that can be used as a tool to help crack your own story and to help you identify the genre of other stories? Jose reveals his method in this episode, using the movie Avatar as an example. Meanwhile, Naomi reveals she’s never seen Avatar, and asks for your help testing Jose’s theory: Which movie do YOU want to know the genre of? Post it in the Comments below and we’ll try to figure it out using Jose’s method!


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About the Author

About the Author: José Silerio, a screenwriter who served as Blake Snyder’s Development Director, has been integral to the success of Blake’s workshops and classes as he worked alongside Blake schooling writers in the Cat! method. Naomi Beaty is a screenwriter and script reader who was mentored by Blake and worked with him on Save the Cat!® Goes to the Movies. Both Jose and Naomi have written many blogs and beat sheets for this website. .

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  1. James says:


    My guess (before listening to the podcast) is : a cross between “Rite of Passage” and “Buddy Love”

    • Naomi says:

      Hey James!

      I could buy La La Land as a Rite of Passage story (if you consider “following your dreams” to be a specific and universal enough phase of life that people can relate to). At the end of the second act, each of the main characters is facing a question about the paths that they’re on in pursuit of their dreams.

      (And, for what it’s worth, I think Mia is the real main character.)

      Even though there is a strong relationship storyline, and the main characters do each need something from the other which makes them more complete, I don’t think it’s a real Buddy Love story and here’s why: other than maybe the Break Into 2 (which I don’t remember exactly what happens there), the other big turning points revolve around the characters’ individual goals rather than around the relationship.

      Let me know what you think when you’ve heard the episode!


  2. Chris says:

    Super Bad – thought it was great/funny – I love these kinds of movies but couldn’t crack what genre – what do you guys think?

    • Naomi says:

      Hey Chris!

      As much as the assumption might be that Superbad is a Buddy Love story — because it’s famously a bromance — I think it’s actually an ROP (and I’m not just saying that because I have ROPs on the brain from talking about La La Land!).

      If you look at the character journeys, they’re really all about each guy’s pursuit of love/relationships/sex. At the end of the second act, each of the 3 main guys are facing getting what they want but not the way they want it, or not getting what they want because of some other assumption they have. The right of passage may actually be learning that friendship is the realest love. Or something along those lines. 🙂


  3. Patricia says:

    Let’s try Collateral Beauty. I think it reads like a ROP. Although the main character is searching for something in each written letter, the secondary characters are also working through one aspects of the letters.

    • Naomi says:

      Ooh, Patricia – I haven’t seen Collateral Beauty yet! Interesting analysis of it. Do you feel like at the All Is Lost and/or Dark Night of the Soul part of the movie, that there’s something that speaks to what the main character has learned over the course of the story? And – part two – do you think it indicates that he’s learned an ROP-type lesson? Food for thought! Can’t wait to see it myself so I can chime in with a more informed answer for you 🙂

  4. Mohamed Mohamud says:

    What happened to the podcast?